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asked one of the top russian jazz bands she's my guest on the show today. nowadays jazz is not the kind of music to play on every radio station but rock and pop music jazz studies one of the most popular jenner's and is considered music but those three understand how does the contemporary jazz world live is there any competition between jazz and pop we'll discuss it with one of the best american jazz vocalist. was.
i. know you're welcome to the show and thank you very much for being with us today thank you for having me well we've just started talking before this interview we started talking about success about the ways of about the different views of being successful in fresh air america but one thing in which i think which is the same is the jazz surely isn't the shortest way to success shortest way to fame to money it's the same in russia and in the states too i guess so what encourages people to do it well is he going to jazz yes it's for love it's always for love you know i don't think anyone goes into jazz for further riches or for fame because those things don't necessarily exist in our genre and so you sort of get outside of it you know certain artists you know have transcended the genre and have become popular outside of jazz you know people like danica. harry connick jr michael bublé
who are now universally loved by everyone loves music they become rich and famous but your average jazz musician just not and so we play this music because we love it because we need to so so you you came into joe's not into a profession i mean you did something else you know you were ready to do something else because as far as i know i read about you you wanted to be a musician for yet are good you have been a singer my entire life and i was raised in a musical family so you know as soon as i started showing talent when i was maybe two or three years old. i've just been known as a singer if i had chosen to do something else my family would have supported me they're all musicians but they've all chosen other careers none of them are professional musicians some of them were for short periods of time and then went into other things and the only one who's made a life of it you know but. but yeah i mean i've never even had another job i've seen professionally since i was sixteen and i've never had any other job besides so
so so so you started making money by. supporting yourself since you were sixteen but i didn't support myself and that's how my father helped me until i was maybe about twenty twenty one but you know when i was in college my dad helped me because my my parents are are amazing and they supported me they made sure i got the greatest college education i could get medical service hori in new york and you know helped me with the rent until i started making records and you know i think twenty two. now today what's popularity for you have how important is it for you that the baby being particularly being able to to to travel the world to work with the best musicians well i mean obviously it's my childhood dream come true and that's amazing and i feel very very lucky but now that the world is changing and the economy is doing what it's doing everywhere for me now it's just you know i can
still do this i can support myself through music i can support my family i have a child you know and i don't have to stop the gigs are still coming you know when the business is changing the world is changing and you know the economy is not what it once was you know i feel very lucky that things not only started in the first place which you never know can ten you'd and now still you know in a time of of you know economic downfall and i'm still doing pretty well and able to support my family and and not have to rely on something else for income i can just saying it's beautiful well the good thing about joe is i mean the the thing is it's hard work to become famous doing jazz but once you famous you can stay with it. until the last day of your life i mean there's a right to be twenty years old to be jazz but it's people stay with you know one someone's. listening to an appreciating new they usually stick with you and you know that it's not it's not like one another singer comes along and someone starts
buying their records you're going to stop playing with they call the young singers they call them projects you know the proof here's my new project they say they don't even call them a girl she's not a girl she's a project that's horrifying. that makes me very sad you know and i suppose and i was probably treated a bit like that at the beginning really which is probably the reason why i was so successful i mean they were branding me you know she's going to look a certain way she's going to sound a certain way and you know i had this like heavy team of people you know making me a star was that before or after their first cd that was during now with all time because your first you start it was amazing to me the vet made you famous made you a story overnight it happened fast and just like a sportsman the olympic yesterday nobody knows you know to do you walk onto the field you jump in here your it was it was kind of like that it was pretty intense and i can't imagine what it must be like for pop stars because for it to just be
inside the jazz world and it felt. you know. but i was you know it was a good time jazz was having a nice moment especially in the states right then were popular a lot of people liked it and i came along and i was very young i was twenty two and at that point there were not a whole lot of young singers now there's all kinds of young jazz singers but at that point in like two thousand. i was considered to be a baby people freaked out and you know i've talked to a lot of musicians famous musicians like staying me dizzy gillespie i mean they all seemed to say the same thing i mean the secret of success is just do what you think is right do what you like to do and that's it well it sounds easy but it but i believe that. there's also the thing to do what would you say about those who did make it to the top i mean your friends about the girls you went together with the college were they talented enough were they lazy or is it merely look what all most
of the production that you got is a combination of a lot of things talent alone is not enough luck alone is not enough and a good team alone is not enough you need a combination of all of those things i know so many musicians that are absolutely brilliant that either have completely moved on to other things or are barely surviving i know a ton of great musicians that are surviving just fine but nobody knows who they are and they don't care because. fame is you know the ability to make music is what's important but you know i i was given good genes from my family so i had a nice instrument i worked my whole life to develop it and to become a killing musician and not just a good singer but someone who could back it up with all kinds of knowledge and then this really great strong team of people found me and said ok well she's got something we can work with and then that's where the luck came in so it's a combination of all those things and that's why it's so difficult to make it you
can't just work really hard and be super talented and expected to happen unfortunately it's just not fair it's just not fair well then what about t.v. shows i mean like like i don't really watch them a lot but sometimes like the american idol for example there are shows like that in russia through they they try to they try to persuade young people that they really get a chance do you think that it really gives people a chance. or the young people don't have to trust the shows is giving them a real chance where i mean a lot of people's careers have launched from their shows a lot of really talented pink singers like kelly clarkson undeniably a force she's on she's crazy down to just amazing carrie underwood i mean there have been a lot of great singers to come out of the shows. but you know madonna walked into a bar and asked the right guy to avoid rick. i don't like that but now you know now that the sort of like newness has rubbed off of shows and now somebody wins and and
we don't necessarily know who they are even the next you know at the beginning when it was first happening as when it was when it was just like a juggernaut of current popularity that's when it was working but those years are good to give people a chance do you think is the true because you say look you. remember that movie called little miss sunshine you know and it's a wonderful movie if. you go. goes to the contest and she actually loses and she goes back to family they realize how they love each other but it shows that that gives you a chance but one chance of ninety eight and the rest knowing the people they get disillusioned. they they they they get the loser feeling especially when you're kids and so is it is with young people to to put over the i think i think i think they shouldn't be too young i'll tell you that much i'll think little kids
should be doing it i think. it's fine forget beauty contests for twelve twelve year old girl i mean i didn't i'm not a fan of that as a mother i'm not a fan of that but you know it is what it is it's put the minute that you know i'd rather see them in like a science competition like building on. using your brains or sports you know exactly and not just having everything be about how they look i mean that's that's the ugly side of this business you know what what sports i always told my kid who is in sports so i tell him that in sports you win that because you better just because you would and you could lose two more it's ok but these competitions they really say that she's better i mean this is this is the difference between sports and the thought of congress and the other thing i wanted to ask you before before before we take a break how many porton are record labels do you think they're good they are still so important to to do for people who go into go into music personally the business
model is changing drastically. but i also think it depends on your genre you know i'm in jazz it's a genre where we have a lot of older listeners that still want to go to a store and buy a cd. you know traditional marketing still works for them you know if i were to try and. you know market my music a certain way using social media and all the stuff i reach a certain demographic but not necessarily mine although that's changing now everyone's using facebook and stuff like that but it's just it depends on the genre . and i mean pretty soon i think everything's just going to be very very different i mean i'm with universal. you know i have a really wonderful relationship with them and it's beautiful i get to make records and they get distributed worldwide and i get to travel around and play and it's you know it's the traditional record making vibe that's been around for a long time and it's still working for me because i'm a jazz musician but for like indie rock people and stuff like that it's different
it's just that in ten years it's going to be a completely different business. going to hide talking to us here in moscow just to remind of the old who lived like over russia very we'll take a break at this point back in motoring so stay with us there you go. longer represents the. the people are going to take the trip. but. the way our economic system currently
with mike's concert for a no holds barred global financial headlines. is a report. download the official location yourself choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorites. if you're away from your television just. not with your mobile device so you can watch on t.v. any time. we were. walking back with what like our in our in auburn just a reminder that we're a guest on the show today jane monheit famous american jazz vocalist jane where we talk
a little about promotion just one thing i want to one other thing i want to turn back a bad promotion about becoming famous what's of people start using internet to lots of people become famous i mean recording or putting a record of their recordings on the net. what do you think in general about about these i.d. things about the new technology because judge jones is traditional thing and you're young but maybe you should be traditional i mean i mean i'm i'm thirty five years old so i was already in the music business before this kind of stuff was happening before we had people getting famous on my space you know when that was still a thing you know all that has stuff you know it's good because it helps people gain exposure who don't have a team working for them you know it's like you don't need a publicist if you can really. get your hands on the internet and make that work for you i know people that have become famous on you tube you know you're. and
they're very talented and it's lovely they have an audience they have people that can listen to their music they have a reason to create and it's it's very very lovely really you know it's good stuff and. you know i don't personally use those things to promote myself really aggressively i talk to people on twitter i like twitter because it's quick and it's easy i do not to facebook make based pages done by my website company as an artist page i've never even seen it i'm the only person i know who's thirty five years old or thirty four i'll be thirty five in a couple months who has like never used facebook i'm so old fashioned but i do love love twitter and i promote shows you know organo last week i had a cancellation of a show and i was you know there was a fire in the club and i was able to let everyone know because i could go on twitter and say hey guys don't come down there is a fire and we were not allowed to play it and you do smoke on the water you know this is the fire marshal. but it was nice that i could do that so it's good you know it's just the world is changing when you're no there was
a couple of stories on t.v. lately about the girl who invited their friends to come to a birthday and i thirty five thousand people show. for those crazy over you please come to more of the if you make thirty thousand people. i mean if you need to grow police to those who are drugs. you are you are performing here in moscow with the goodman who is who was a friend of mine the reader of this show has been more than once actually. one of the one of the best jazz musicians in russia well what what's your impression generally about about russian jazz because everybody in the states knows russia for she coughs suad like but i don't think a lot of people know russia for five years jazz well you know igor igor spawn known in the states the clinton there was a nice boy he was the girl on the cake for claiming that. it was to get on the cake . clinton's only version i have of maybe the saxophone of course.
you know that but yeah you know i didn't. no really any russian jazz musicians personally. so you know i came here most of the band today the band is so swinging just killing band amazing you know it sounds so good and everybody is just so nice you know everybody's been so lovely to us here it's been really great and i had a feeling the band was going to be killing i just knew i could like sense the soulful viable like i knew it was going to be great and it was it's going to be a really great concert tomorrow so what what's your relation to popular music i mean because in russia. lately the world pop music we do we do called pop music and what we call it pops up and this is like swearing i mean if you say the word pops i would degree probably say please please do what you wish in the poplars
were what's your attitude to popular music i'd like to really like mariah carey you know sara lee you know what i did about pop music is it's just a completely different form that's the way i feel like we have this look i don't business i mean well well this is this is both because the people that are that are really i mean look at these engineers and these producers and what they're doing layering different sounds creating new beats all this kind of stuff over production is one of the problems of pop music actually if you look at it that way i think it's just a thing that's just going to be viewed differently by different generations i think probably when jazz started you know. almost one hundred years ago probably at that point you had people going oh the horror you know the devil's music you know goes to the people who write about it lord knows i mean you know the common interval the try tone. used to be considered the devil's interval and it was sinful you should use it in your music you should mean listen to it you know so i just
think it's the kind of thing where it's you know people's ears of often they want to hear different things but i don't think we can discount the work that people are doing what i don't like is the fact that we've got a whole bunch of singers now that can't actually physically do their job that drives me nuts their auto tuned they get up live either they're tuned life or they're god awful and that drives me nuts you know that singers and you know if i had a nickel for every time somebody said to me oh man you sing in tune and i'm like yeah it's my job to sing in tune don't be surprised i shouldn't get extra credit for that you know that part of it drives me a little crazy but the production and the the new sounds the electronic vibe and very and using i like rap when there's a good time feel and it's flowing really considered to be music actually art or is it just like self-expression i mean it's like spoken word i mean you have a lot of people that are that are delivering some important messages and then you have guys that just have like killing time feels like snoop i mean he's he probably
be a great jazz musician so but i mean the tracks are it's just a different a different art form and it has to be looked at a different way i mean i think there's something good to be found in everything. you probably shouldn't like but i will i will ask it anyway you you are from compared people often compare you with the general and do you do you think you really have much in common with oh well she was a huge influence on me and there are things that are similar about our approach is you know ella saying in a very joyful. way she was a happy singer and so my and really really swinging you know i like that too there's a mellow me you know and then you know beautiful beautiful sound i mean i always say you know whenever soon as you start hearing ella's voice it just everything feels better. but you know so we're
a little bit similar but comparisons are just i mean that's what we have to do as human beings we need to categorize everything as soon as something new comes along we say what is it similar to how can identify this with something else in my work the mental rolodex it's just what we do as people it's human nature i mean i don't think i really sound like her and i shouldn't you know i don't think it's. i think it's pointless you know as a professional musician to be completely derivative of someone else and why what are we doing this what's the protocol your idol and one of. the others oh there are so many so many and from so many different genres of music but in terms of the great jazz singers sarah vaughan current i'm sorry. i mean so many mel torme helen meryl killy smith i mean all of the great jazz singers have influenced me in one way or another but in so many singers outside of jazz to judy garland is a huge influence on me because she sang with so much emotion i'm such
a brilliant storyteller and actually could really swing and love jazz but not too many people know that about her do the music awards mean anything to you well they're nice for a couple reasons i mean i don't have any i've never won a grammy never been nominated for a grammy there are some there's been some press that says i've been nominated for a grammy but it's not true then spend those a was nominated for some of my records for string arrangements he wrote for me but you know it's it's a nice thing because it's voted on by your peers so if you win a grammy you can say to yourself wow all of these other musicians voted for me and that's very lovely you know and it's something nice that you can put in your bio when it feels good to have that recognition but ultimately it's not. you know i'm more proud of the fact that i get to work every day well with a dream where you do have a dream venue well i've played carnegie hall in the hollywood ball now but myself. bills with other artists. about red square taj mahal. that's the thing you know
this part of the world i want to get to that i haven't been to yet not necessarily theaters but i'm just getting started here which is amazing i've never been to australia or new zealand i'm going to china for the first time next month. you know so i always think of it more in terms of cities and countries and and markets you know not necessarily certain rooms. do you. do you feel that there is a mission because lots of people of your profession so the very very saying they play music won't you just because this is this is the way they live i mean people wake up in the morning. just saying. at some point in the day people come with a tape recorder recorded the whole world and some people say well i have to sell
you something what what what is it for you is a just the way you breathe or is it the way you think well it's out of there i go crazy if i couldn't sing i go crazy i i'm. so defined by it you know the two things that completely are my life are my my family number one and my music you know but i do sort of have a bit of a mission with what i do i mean i want to keep this thing alive the great american songbook and these composers i approached the music in a relatively traditional way because i want to pay respect to them and keep alive what they intended for the songs you know whether it's going back and getting the original changes or you know saying ok well this tune was written to be a ballad so let's not do the super uptempo version of it you know it's important to me to among other things to to do that but yeah i just need to sing i wouldn't be
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